# LES PROJETS AVORTÉS **URL:** \ **Category:** Club Comics\ **Created:** [Juin 4, 2013, 12:27 UTC](https://forum.sanctuary.fr/t/les-projets-avortes/47944 "2013-06-04T12:27:11Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 8
**Author:** ![Jack](https://forum.sanctuary.fr/user_avatar/forum.sanctuary.fr/jack/32/40457_2.png) [@Jack](https://forum.sanctuary.fr/u/Jack)\ **Post date:** [Février 3, 2015, 4:22 UTC](https://forum.sanctuary.fr/t/les-projets-avortes/47944/159 "2015-02-03T16:22:26Z")
Todd McFarlane a dévoilé sur sa page Facebook une couverture illustrée par Greg Capullo et encrée par ses soins pour un troisième projet de crossover entre **Batman et Spawn**. Si ce projet ne vit jamais le jour, il fut précédé par deux rencontres entre le justicier de Gotham et le rejeton des enfers. La première fut orchestrée par Frank Miller et Todd McFarlane en 1994. Elle fut suivie la même année par le numéro spécial **War Devil** supervisé par Doug Moench, Chuck Dixon, Alan Grant et le dessinateur Klaus Janson. [![](https://forum.sanctuary.fr/uploads/default/original/4X/0/3/c/03c3263b80b0f7970705f89d3978d460ac1de963.jpeg) ](https://imagizer.imageshack.com/a/img911/8697/O1LAid.jpg) > [@](#): > > Just like BIGFOOT…here’s that mysterious comic book creature, the Spawn - Batman crossover that NO ONE has EVER SEEN!!! > > Years ago there was a deal for DC Comics and myself to do a cool Batman/Spawn cross-over book (for those not hip to comic lingo, that’s a book in which both characters are in the same issue). I to to have written and inked it, while a talented penciller, Greg Capullo, was going to draw it. for a variety of reasons (mostly on my shoulders) the book never got off the ground, but a few pages and promo pieces were done for it. Below is one such piece drawn by Greg and inked by myself. > > _ **This story is different than an earlier version of Spawn/Batman that Frank Miller wrote and I drew.** _ > > And in a bit of fate: Years later, Mr. Capullo would take over the artistic drawing reins for the caped crusader and he would be the next hot shot artist on DC Comics’ BATMAN comic! Which is usually at the top of the best selling comics each month (ably written by Scott Snyder). > > Anyway, I came across this cool cover the other day and thought that it was too good not to share. > > Enjoy. > > TODD Source: [facebook.com/liketoddmcfarlane](http://www.facebook.com/liketoddmcfarlane) ---
**Author:** ![Marko](https://forum.sanctuary.fr/user_avatar/forum.sanctuary.fr/marko/32/39150_2.png) [@Marko](https://forum.sanctuary.fr/u/Marko)\ **Post date:** [Février 9, 2015, 12:01 UTC](https://forum.sanctuary.fr/t/les-projets-avortes/47944/160 "2015-02-09T12:01:05Z")
[img11.hostingpics.net/pics/558058paulsmithwonderwoman.jpg](http://www.hostingpics.net/viewer.php?id=558058paulsmithwonderwoman.jpg) Durant les années 90, DC envisage une mini-série façon « Year One » consacrée à la fameuse trinité, intitulée au départ «  **Love and War**  » (comme l’excellent graphic novel du duo Miller/Sienkiewicz). Le projet est confié à **Jeph Loeb** et au prodige **Paul Smith** , un artiste aussi rare que talentueux, connu pour privilégier la moto à la planche à dessin. Une des principales divergences éditoriales concernait le fait que DC voulait un relooking plus sexy pour Diana (90’s oblige) ce qui finira plus tard par se concrétiser. Cependant Smith refuse, fidèle à sa réputation de dessinateur de femmes classes et élégantes (ce qui change agréablement pendant cette période des mannequins anorexiques de J. Scott Campbell, des cambrures improbables de Liefeld, et des personnages féminins de Top Cow peu vêtues en général). ![](https://forum.sanctuary.fr/uploads/default/original/3X/1/e/1ec5f28d7fc151106846d8fcd5fe17d14331ba88.jpg) Dans une logique d’hommage et de retour aux origines, à l’instar de Mazzucchelli avec Batman, celui-ci voulait un look qui se rapproche plutôt de la version jupe des débuts (à la manière de **Harry G. Peter** ). Après une importante mésentente sur la direction choisie, le projet a finalement capoté et Smith a préféré se consacrer à **Leave It to Chance** , un de ses meilleurs travaux à mon avis (le summum restant bien sûr son run sur les X-Men). Source: [paulmartinsmith.com/blog/love-and-war](http://www.paulmartinsmith.com/blog/love-and-war) ---
**Author:** ![l\_archer\_vert](https://forum.sanctuary.fr/user_avatar/forum.sanctuary.fr/l_archer_vert/32/148037_2.png) [@l\_archer\_vert](https://forum.sanctuary.fr/u/l_archer_vert)\ **Post date:** [Février 9, 2015, 12:05 UTC](https://forum.sanctuary.fr/t/les-projets-avortes/47944/161 "2015-02-09T12:05:52Z")
Ça aurait été sûrement magnifique. Et classe effectivement. Un beau loupé de coche. ---
**Author:** ![Jack](https://forum.sanctuary.fr/user_avatar/forum.sanctuary.fr/jack/32/40457_2.png) [@Jack](https://forum.sanctuary.fr/u/Jack)\ **Post date:** [Février 9, 2015, 12:54 UTC](https://forum.sanctuary.fr/t/les-projets-avortes/47944/162 "2015-02-09T12:54:50Z")
Voici quelques recherches supplémentaires de Paul Smith pour **Love and War** : [![](https://forum.sanctuary.fr/uploads/default/original/4X/4/b/0/4b007dbd5efd7330daf1b769214ebea8ee67d0d7.jpeg) ](https://imagizer.imageshack.com/a/img912/2983/u9bdUQ.jpg) [![](https://forum.sanctuary.fr/uploads/default/original/4X/f/6/0/f60898ca423d1923aef12159712f162af6b1086f.jpeg) ](https://imagizer.imageshack.com/a/img910/8518/Ocbovq.jpg) [![](https://forum.sanctuary.fr/uploads/default/original/4X/5/3/f/53fadbd73c0c1fc2228f106be558d521ca9dbd6f.jpeg) ](https://imagizer.imageshack.com/a/img661/9383/liPq6G.jpg) [![](https://forum.sanctuary.fr/uploads/default/original/4X/2/a/a/2aabda8d0c6bb9562f5d9e20236dfbf610e6546c.jpeg) ](https://imagizer.imageshack.com/a/img912/576/f0Bi6C.jpg) [![](https://forum.sanctuary.fr/uploads/default/original/4X/2/e/7/2e79aafdb659656d72151586c6037c40c40b05ed.jpeg) ](https://imagizer.imageshack.com/a/img540/6044/V9rp6h.jpg) [![](https://forum.sanctuary.fr/uploads/default/original/4X/7/2/7/7276cb24302f5a2399ac41464ca76d6310de839f.jpeg) ](https://imagizer.imageshack.com/a/img633/3266/3HlUOJ.jpg) [http://imageshack.com/a/img661/6691/qF3YKf.jpg](http://imageshack.com/a/img661/6691/qF3YKf.jpg) [![](https://forum.sanctuary.fr/uploads/default/original/4X/b/7/7/b77368d4662483dcccc7d472ec0445d07dd87cac.jpeg) ](https://imagizer.imageshack.com/a/img537/8215/PgCMbD.jpg) Source: [www.paulmartinsmith.com](http://www.paulmartinsmith.com) ---
**Author:** ![Jack](https://forum.sanctuary.fr/user_avatar/forum.sanctuary.fr/jack/32/40457_2.png) [@Jack](https://forum.sanctuary.fr/u/Jack)\ **Post date:** [Février 9, 2015, 12:55 UTC](https://forum.sanctuary.fr/t/les-projets-avortes/47944/163 "2015-02-09T12:55:41Z")
Merci pour la présentation, Marko. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Jack](https://forum.sanctuary.fr/user_avatar/forum.sanctuary.fr/jack/32/40457_2.png) [@Jack](https://forum.sanctuary.fr/u/Jack)\ **Post date:** [Février 17, 2015, 7:41 UTC](https://forum.sanctuary.fr/t/les-projets-avortes/47944/164 "2015-02-17T19:41:16Z")
De moins en moins intéressé par l’idée de dessiner des comics, l’artiste **John Byrne** a diffusé sur son site les planches du premier numéro de **Finders Of Lost Children** , une nouvelle aventure des **Next Men** qu’il pense ne jamais terminer. Débutée en 1991 dans les pages de l’anthologie **Dark Horse Presents** , la série Next Men suit cinq jeunes surhumains fuyant l’agence gouvernementale qui les a artificiellement modifié à l’aide d’une mystérieuse technologie découverte en Antarctique en 1955. La série s’arrêtera abruptement en 1995 au bout du 30ème numéro. Il faudra attendre 2010 pour que la « prochaine génération » retrouve le chemin des bacs à comics le temps de deux mini-séries publiées par IDW Publishing. > [@](#): > > It has becoming increasingly obvious – to me, anyway! – that the FINDERS miniseries I was planning is simply not going to come together. More reasons than I can count, but mostly other things (STAR TREK!) occupying my time. Plus my recently confessed lack of interest in drawing comics anymore. Maybe that interest will return, maybe not. Only time will tell. > > Thing is, tho, there is an entire issue of FINDERS complete and in the drawer. What to do with it? Well, this is my solution: « serialize » it here in the JBF. > > A couple of little problems with that idea, tho. One, it’s not lettered, since lettering is rarely done on the boards these days. And second, it’s in black and white, and there are several pages with rather important color element. Solution, then, run the script along with the pages – sorry, gang, I just don’t love you enough to put in the time and effort to letter the story (no volunteers, please!) – and apply color, as in ANGEL: BLOOD AND TRENCHES, where needed. > > I’m going to run a page a day for the next three weeks or so – without attempting to convert it to « serial » form – but to kick off, I’m starting with two pages, since not much happens on the splash. Oh, yeah, and I’m going to lock the thread each day, until the whole thing is « published. » Then I will open the thread for comments. > > Merry Xmas! [![](https://forum.sanctuary.fr/uploads/default/original/4X/2/5/8/258a4cd1f1ea2ee7d1eb463fb08ce4faf4601ce8.jpeg) ](https://imagizer.imageshack.com/a/img538/6207/aSmMVx.jpg) > [@](#): > > PAGE ONE > > 1 NATHAN: Ah, GOWER. There you are. > > 2 NATHAN: This is CYNTHIA CARTER. She’ll be JOINING us as of today. > > 3 NATHAN: I’d like you to SHOW her the ROPES. [![](https://forum.sanctuary.fr/uploads/default/original/4X/7/e/0/7e066c81268eda4edcd42e64d3af4cfcef7de945.jpeg) ](https://imagizer.imageshack.com/a/img661/5232/4Z6cAJ.jpg) > [@](#): > > PAGE TWO > > PANEL ONE > > 1 NATHAN: As I’m sure my WIFE told you, Ms. Carter… > > 2 NATHAN: Gower here is one of our TOP operatives. > > 3 CYNTHIA: Oh, yes. > > 4 CYNTHIA: Mrs. SMITH has told me ALL about Mr. BLAINE. > > 5 GOWER: Has she indeed? > > 6 GOWER: Maybe I should play it SAFE… > > 7 GOWER: …and DENY EVERYTHING! > > PANEL TWO > > 8 NATHAN: Gower, ALVIN is ready downstairs whenever you are. > > 9 NATHAN: Well, I leave you two to GET ACQUAINTED. > > 10 CYNTHIA: Thank you, Mr. Smith. > > PANEL THREE > > 11 GOWER: So YOU’RE the new blood the office has been buzzing about for a WEEK. > > 12 GOWER: Cynthia, was it? Can I offer you a cup of COFFEE, Cynthia? > > 13 CYNTHIA: Perhaps later. > > 14 CYNTHIA: I was hoping to get STARTED… > > PANEL FOUR > > 15 GOWER: So was I! > > 16 GOWER: And I’m sure we can find something much more INTERESTING than COFFEE. > > PANEL FIVE > > 17 CYNTHIA: Perhaps we need to come to an UNDERSTANDING, Mr. Blaine. > > 18 CYNTHIA: I know your REPUTATION, but I am here strictly to WORK. > > 19 CYNTHIA: Do. You. Understand. That? > > 20 GOWER: Y-yes… [![](https://forum.sanctuary.fr/uploads/default/original/4X/b/6/8/b687fb3db2c2f010993fa3445e3755402902fce1.jpeg) ](https://imagizer.imageshack.com/a/img538/7558/ECJTQB.jpg) > [@](#): > > PAGE THREE > > PANEL ONE > > 1 CYNTHIA: Then I think we are going to get along just fine. > > 2 CYNTHIA: Now, where can I put my coat? > > 3 GOWER: The… employee locker room is just down the hall. > > 4 GOWER: But tell me, how did you get drawn into this little slice of WONDERLAND? > > PANEL TWO > > 5 CYNTHIA: I was ADVANCED STUDIES at PRINCETON. > > 6 CYNTHIA: One day the DEAN called me into his office. He said he’d HEARD about… the THINGS I can DO. > > 7 CYNTHIA: He gave me a number to call… > > 8 GOWER: And it turned out to be Mrs. Smith. > > PANEL THREE > > 9 CYNTHIA: Yes. Bethany. She had me come in for an interview. > > 10 CYNTHIA: Some tech types tested my… powers, and Mr. and Mrs. Smith offered me a place with the ORGANIZATION. > > PANEL FOUR > > 11 CYNTHIA: What about YOU? > > 12 CYNTHIA: I presume you also have some… SPECIAL ABILITIES? > > 13 GOWER: Me? Nah! > > 14 GOWER: Strictly GUIDED MUSCLE. > > 15 GOWER: My job is to PROTECT the SPECIALS, like you. > > PANEL FIVE > > 16 GOWER: And there’s the man who has the most IMPORTANT job… > > 17 GOWER: Alvin! > > 18 ALVIN: Gower! > > PANEL SIX > > 19 ALVIN: I was just going to SEND for you. > > 20 ALVIN: Got a HOT one for you this morning. > > 21 ALVIN: Who’s your friend? New blood? [![](https://forum.sanctuary.fr/uploads/default/original/4X/3/8/b/38bdc7a22531ce76e686068db56d3a153f991407.jpeg) ](https://imagizer.imageshack.com/a/img538/2157/HGO8EF.jpg) > [@](#): > > PAGE FOUR > > PANEL ONE > > 1 GOWER: Alvin Nealy, Cynthia Carter, > > 2 GOWER: Cynthia, Alvin. > > 3 CYNTHIA: Dr, Nealy… > > 4 ALVIN: Oh, please! Not so formal! > > 5 ALVIN: Besides, I never did actually FINISH getting that degree… > > 6 ALVIN: Anyway, Ms Carter, welcome to the HIVE. > > PANEL TWO > > 7 ALVIN (off-panel, left): This is where all our busy little WORKER BEES make the MAGIC that makes this whole operation POSSIBLE. > > 8 ALVIN: Like Rosario, here… > > 9 ROSARIO: You’re right on time, Al. > > 10 ROSARIO: This is the data. Just needs your SPECIAL TOUCH! > > PANEL THREE > > 11 GOWER: You said this was a HOT one, Al? > > 12 ALVIN: Looks like. Been TRACKING bits and pieces since just after MIDNIGHT. > > PANEL FOUR > > 13 ALVIN: There you go. Close to home, too, for a CHANGE. > > 14 ALVIN: Harlem. > > PANEL FIVE > > 15 ALVIN (off-panel, right): Oh, and it looks like SHARON McALLISTER is on this one! [![](https://forum.sanctuary.fr/uploads/default/original/4X/4/f/b/4fb2ec85c392c8cf72b739ad7ecf9cb78d4c9374.jpeg) ](https://imagizer.imageshack.com/a/img538/7158/NWlPD7.jpg) > [@](#): > > PAGE FIVE > > PANEL ONE > > 1 CYNTHIA (from car): We’re almost there. > > 2 CYNTHIA: Are you going to tell me who Sharon McAllister is? > > 3 GOWER (from car): I used to be a COP. > > 4 GOWER: She used to be my PARTNER. > > PANEL TWO > > 5 CYNTHIA: And that’s all? > > 6 CYNTHIA: Nealy seemed to be… GOADING you. > > 7 CYNTHIA: And given your REPUTATION… > > 8 GOWER: That’s all that’s RELEVANT to this CASE. > > PANEL THREE > > 9 GOWER (from car): Cops are still here in FULL FORCE. > > 10 GOWER: Al was right – this MUST be a HOT one. > > PANEL FOUR > > 11 CYNTHIA: Oh my god! The STENCH! > > 12 CYNTHIA: Do people really LIVE like THIS? > > 13 GOWER: Not by CHOICE, Princess. > > 14 GOWER: Mornin’, Shar. Okay if WE take a LOOK around? > > 15 SHARON: If I said NO, would you LEAVE? > > 16 SHARON: I thought not. > > 17 SHARON: And as long as your BOSSES are BEST BUDDIES with MAYOR LINDSAY… > > PANEL FIVE > > 18 SHARON: But be CAREFUL where you STEP. > > 19 SHARON: There’s BLOOD EVERYWHERE. > > 20 CYNTHIA: No need for HYPERBOLE, Detective. > > 21 CYNTHIA: I’ve been BRIEFED on CRIME SCENE PROTOCOL. [![](https://forum.sanctuary.fr/uploads/default/original/4X/e/7/b/e7b6642751fd046505fa5657f2365feddb3fbd64.jpeg) ](https://imagizer.imageshack.com/a/img673/25/o1yMFv.jpg) > [@](#): > > PAGE SIX > > PANEL ONE > > 1 SHARON: Well bully for you, Nancy Drew. > > 2 SHARON: But that wasn’t hyperbole! > > PANEL TWO > > 3 GOWER: Princess…? > > PANEL THREE > > 4 GOWER: Princess! > > PANEL FOUR > > 5 SHARON: Excellent “briefing”, there… > > 6 GOWER: Cut the kid a BREAK, Shar. > > 7 GOWER: You were FRESH out of the BOX yourself, once. [![](https://forum.sanctuary.fr/uploads/default/original/4X/5/5/5/555dc993cca062d48fcd26459ca43962eb664638.jpeg) ](https://imagizer.imageshack.com/a/img673/3244/VuYNVT.jpg) > [@](#): > > PAGE SEVEN > > PANEL ONE > > 1 GOWER: You okay, Princess? > > 2 CYNTHIA: I’m… EMBARASSED. > > 3 CYNTHIA: Oh, God! There wasn’t anybody on the STAIRS, was there? > > PANEL TWO > > 4 GOWER: Nothing to be embarassed about, kiddo. > > 5 GOWER: Here, have a drop of the TRUE. Steady your nerves. > > 6 CYNTHIA: I… don’t DRINK… > > PANEL THREE > > 7 SHARON: If you two LOVE BIRDS are done… > > 8 SHARON: …do you MIND if we CONTINUE this investigation? > > PANEL FOUR > > 9 SHARON: I’d like to get HOME some time today! > > 10 SHARON: Are you about DONE, Dr. Ricardo? > > 11 RIC: For now. > > 12 RIC: It’s gonna take WEEKS to sort this all out! > > PANEL FIVE > > 13 GOWER: What are you BAGGING, Ric? > > 14 GOWER: Is there more than just BLOOD? > > 15 RIC: A LOT more, Gow. > > 16 RIC: Like BONE CHIPS. Millions of them. > > 17 RIC: Not a ONE more than a QUARTER INCH long. > > PANEL SIX > > 18 RIC: But THIS is the REAL puzzler. > > 19 RIC: What do you make of this blood-free pattern? [![](https://forum.sanctuary.fr/uploads/default/original/4X/3/f/4/3f41e7c6cf327369d45697f87888a8c195857abd.jpeg) ](https://imagizer.imageshack.com/a/img673/8593/u2DFas.jpg) > [@](#): > > PAGE EIGHT > > PANEL ONE > > 1 GOWER: Footprints. Adult Male. Child. > > 2 GOWER: Looks like the adult was standing over the child… threatening? > > 3 GOWER: Not sure about the BLOB behind the kid… > > PANEL TWO > > 4 CYNTHIA: That could be a person sitting on the floor. > > 5 CYNTHIA: The MOTHER? > > 6 CYNTHIA: …and the child was PROTECTING her… > > 7 GOWER: Makes sense… > > PANEL THREE > > 8 SHARON: Hold on. I KNOW the kind of WEIRDNESS Gower is mixed up in these days. > > 9 SHARON: Are you saying… a man… EXPLODED? > > 10 CYNTHIA: I… don’t know. > > PANEL FOUR > > 11 CYNTHIA: But something like that… would have to make a… SOUND… > > 12 GOWER: Like NOTHING anybody had ever HEARD before. > > 13 GOWER: You don’t mind if we CANVAS the neighbors, Shar? > > 14 SHARON: Be my guest. > > 15 SHARON: You KNOW how HELPFUL they’ll be! > > PANEL FIVE > > 16 GOWER: Yeah, well… we have a… slight ADVANTAGE. > > 17 SHARON: if you say so. > > 18 SHARON: And don’t forget, Gower… next SATURDAY is the FIRST of the MONTH. > > 19 SHARON: THAT’S when the ALIMONY check is due! > > PANEL SIX and SEVEN (silent) [![](https://forum.sanctuary.fr/uploads/default/original/4X/f/8/e/f8e77134fa96533d9a493ac3269277c423d60fbd.jpeg) ](https://imagizer.imageshack.com/a/img910/4947/6Zk4bc.jpg) > [@](#): > > PAGE NINE > > PANELS ONE & TWO (SFX on art) > > PANEL THREE > > 1 OLD LADY: Go ‘way! > > 2 OLD LADY: I TOL’ you I got NOTHIN’ t’say t’the PO-lice! > > PANEL FOUR > > 3 CYNTHIA: But we’re NOT the police. > > 4 CYNTHIA: And you have NOTHING to fear from us. > > PANEL FIVE > > 5 CAPTION” “Surely you can spare us a FEW minutes?” > > 6 OLD LADY: …an she’d only just got MALCOLM back from SOCIAL SERVICES…. > > 7 OLD LADY: …after she tried to KILL HERSELF again, last year. > > 8 OLD LADY: SPROUSE was BEATIN’ her again, I know, an’ I heard somethin’ go… POP! > > 9 CYNTHIA: And that was LATE last night? > > PANEL SIX > > 10 GOWER: Did you hear anything ELSE? > > 11 GOWER: Like, AFTER the… “pop”? > > 12 OLD LADY: That POP was the WORS’ sound I ever did hear. I didn’t WANT to hear NOTHIN’ after that! > > 13 OLD LADY: But I thought… maybe there was a SQUEAK on the FIRE ESCAPE. > > PANEL SEVEN > > 14 GOWER: The fire escape… [![](https://forum.sanctuary.fr/uploads/default/original/4X/3/a/4/3a48b159a8b23ecfca1836e65f4eda6b5b9f878a.jpeg) ](https://imagizer.imageshack.com/a/img538/7062/Furi9b.jpg) > [@](#): > > PAGE TEN > > PANEL ONE > > 1 GOWER: Yep… there’s BLOOD here. > > PANEL TWO > > 2 GOWER: Figures. Whoever was IN that room would have been just as COVERED as everything else. > > 3 CYNTHIA: They climbed to the roof? > > 4 CYNTHIA: Should we tell Detective McAllister? > > PANEL THREE > > 5 GOWER: No. Like she said, this is one of OURS. > > 6 GOWER: Problem with that? > > 7 CYNTHIA: No. > > PANEL FOUR > > 8 CAPTION: “Mrs. Smith explained our METHODS would be… UNORTHODOX.” > > 9 GOWER: The trail is running out. > > 10 GOWER: Not surprising, after climbing over HALF the ROOFTOPS in HARLEM! > > PANEL FIVE > > 11 GOWER: This is the end of it. > > 12 GOWER: And from HERE, they could have gone ANYWHERE. > > 13 CYNTHIA: I suppose we should head back to BASE, then. > > PANEL SIX > > 14 CAPTION: “All we can really do now is REPORT.” > > 15 BETHANY: This is SERIOUS. [![](https://forum.sanctuary.fr/uploads/default/original/4X/e/2/b/e2b6326221eb7eacf34a718ecd8dfcebc47f0879.jpeg) ](https://imagizer.imageshack.com/a/img537/6700/jJbSAE.jpg) > [@](#): > > PAGE ELEVEN > > PANEL ONE > > 1 GOWER: More serious than any of the other “specials” we’ve scooped over the years? > > 2 BETHANY: You’ve been with us for five years now, Blaine. > > 3 BETHANY: In that time, have you ever seen a FIRST MANIFESTATION that was so… VIOLENT? > > 4 BETHANY: This SPECIAL is POWERFUL and UNCONTROLLED. > > 5 BETHANY: Alvin… your thoughts? > > PANEL TWO > > 6 ALVIN: I got NOTHIN’, Boss. > > 7 ALVIN: Way I see it, the only way we have any hope of finding this one again is to… WAIT. > > PANEL THREE > > 8 CYNTHIA: Wait? > > 9 CYNTHIA: You don’t mean… wait until this monster KILLS AGAIN? > > 10 GOWER: We try not to think of them as MONSTERS, Princess. > > 11 GOWER: And do you have a BETTER plan? > > PANEL FOUR > > 12 BETHANY: Unfortunately, there IS no better plan. > > 13 BETHANY: All we can do is HOPE the next incident leads to a SWIFT INTERCEPTION. > > 14 BETHANY: Get started. > > PANEL FIVE > > 15 GOWER: On it, Boss. > > 16 GOWER: Comin’, Princess? > > 17 CYNTHIA: I’ll join you in a few minutes. > > 18 CYNTHIA: Mrs. Smith, if you have a moment… > > 19 BETHANY: A moment. > > 20 BETHANY: I have to prepare for a flight to Shanghai… > > PANEL SIX > > 21 CYNTHIA: This won’t take long. > > 22 CYNTHIA: I just had a couple of QUESTIONS… [![](https://forum.sanctuary.fr/uploads/default/original/4X/8/d/c/8dc973b2b1b362a5ead3a386e97c69159cbe95aa.jpeg) ](https://imagizer.imageshack.com/a/img912/7782/JvqX6w.jpg) > [@](#): > > PAGE TWELVE > > PANEL ONE > > 1 ALVIN: …but I admit I don’t really UNDERSTAND a lot of the company’s PROPRIETORIAL technology. > > 2 ALVIN: And I don’t think I’m SUPPOSED to! > > 3 GOWER: As long as it WORKS, Al, that’s all that… > > 4 GOWER: CYNTHIA! > > PANEL TWO > > 5 GOWER: You look like somebody WALKED on your GRAVE… > > 6 GOWER: In HOBNAIL BOOTS! > > 7 CYNTHIA: Do I? > > PANEL THREE > > 8 CYNTHIA: I… asked Mrs. Smith some QUESTIONS. > > 9 CYNTHIA: I… guess I wasn’t PREPARED for the ANSWERS… > > 10 GOWER: What did she…? > > 11 ALVIN: Hey! > > PANEL FOUR > > 12 GOWER: Whatcha GOT, Al? > > 13 ALVIN: Something from your EX’s department. > > 14 ALVIN: They are suddenly VERY interested in a Mrs. ESTELLE SALTER. > > 15 ALVIN: She seems to be the GRANDMOTHER of the woman who was renting the BLOOD BOX. > > PANEL FIVE > > 16 CAPTION: “Address is just across the G.W.B. in JERSEY…” > > 17 GOWER: Looks like this is going to CONTINUE your lesson in how the OTHER HALF lives, Princess. > > 18 GOWER: At least these folk know what TREES and GRASS look like. > > PANEL SIX > > 19 GOWER: Nobody home? > > 20 CYNTHIA: I’m getting… COOKING aromas… [![](https://forum.sanctuary.fr/uploads/default/original/4X/5/6/e/56e5f8fe17b7f61b4f6268a1e60d952aa164aab3.jpeg) ](https://imagizer.imageshack.com/a/img540/4899/RANPFF.jpg) > [@](#): > > PAGE THIRTEEN > > PANEL ONE > > 1 CYNTHIA: No sign of life inside, though. > > 2 CYNTHIA: What’s the usual PROTOCOL for… > > PANEL TWO > > 3 CYNTHIA: Where are you going? > > 4 GOWER: The left side of the house is BLOCKED with GARBAGE. > > PANEL THREE > > 5 GOWER: We’ll have to CIRCLE ‘round. > > 6 GOWER: At least it’s a LOW fence! > > PANEL FOUR > > 7 CYNTHIA: Isn’t this TRESPASSING? > > 8 GOWER: Some say! > > 9 GOWER: Hello? Anybody home? > > PANEL FIVE > > 10 CYNTHIA: Gower! > > 11 GOWER: Door’s not LOCKED. > > 12 GOWER: If they LEFT, they left in a HURRY… > > PANEL SIX > > 13 GOWER: I wonder if… [![](https://forum.sanctuary.fr/uploads/default/original/4X/a/e/2/ae249d5d3a248ebbdc1f15362965223d0684ce82.jpeg) ](https://imagizer.imageshack.com/a/img910/4305/Zc3iUG.jpg) > [@](#): > > PAGE FOURTEEN > > PANEL ONE > > 1 CYNTHIA (burst- overlaps top of SFX on page): GOWER!! > > PANEL TWO > > 2 MOTHER: Get out! Both of you GET OUT! > > 3 MOTHER: You have no RIGHT to BE here! > > 4 CYNTHIA: Easy! Easy! > > PANEL THREE > > 5 CYNTHIA: We aren’t going to HURT you. > > 6 CYNTHIA: Let. Me. Have. The. Gun. > > 7 MOTHER: Let… you… have… > > PANEL FOUR > > 8 CYNTHIA: There! Isn’t that BETTER? > > 9 CYNTHIA: Now, come and sit down. We only want to ask you some QUESTIONS. > > 10 GOWER: Like… have you seen your GRANDDAUGHTER lately? > > PANEL FIVE > > 11 MOTHER: Ester? > > 12 MOTHER: I hadn’t seen her since MALCOLM was born. [![](https://forum.sanctuary.fr/uploads/default/original/4X/c/9/e/c9ed6f4056963de3ea4b6686d6fbbff183e8f3d1.jpeg) ](https://imagizer.imageshack.com/a/img909/7862/grH9Ky.jpg) > [@](#): > > PAGE FIFTEEN > > PANEL ONE > > 1 CAPTION: “But she showed up at my door TODAY…… > > 2 CAPTION: “…lookin’ like nothin’ I ever seen on God’s Earth! > > PANEL TWO > > 3 CAPTION: “She was shakin’ an’ sobbin’… > > 4 CAPTION: “…but she managed to tell me what had happened. > > 5 CAPTION: “While the whole time Malcolm hung onto her like he was a drownin’ man an’ she was a piece of driftwood. > > PANEL THREE > > 6 CAPTION: “It started with that no-good she’d hooked up with. Crauss. > > 7 CAPTION: “He came home just before midnight last night. > > 8 CAPTION: “He was drugged out of his mind. > > 9 CAPTION: “In a RAGE. > > PANEL FIVE > > 10 CAPTION: “He hit her. > > 11 CAPTION: “Like he’d done so many times before. > > PANEL SIX > > 12 CAPTION: “But this time it was DIFFERENT. > > 13 CAPTION: “This time Malcolm tried to PROTECT Ester. [http://imageshack.com/a/img540/3569/BtcU0K.jpg](http://imageshack.com/a/img540/3569/BtcU0K.jpg) > [@](#): > > PAGE SIXTEEN > > PANEL ONE > > 1 CAPTION: “Crauss wasn’t havin’ NONE of that. > > 2 CAPTION: “He told the boy to get OUT of the WAY… > > 3 CAPTION: “…or he’d get SOME of the SAME. > > PANEL TWO > > 4 CAPTION: “But Malcolm didn’t MOVE. > > 5 CAPTION: “Instead…” > > PANEL THREE - Silent. [![](https://forum.sanctuary.fr/uploads/default/original/4X/0/2/5/025413ce462f172d27a4de642513d319e056fb2c.jpeg) ](https://imagizer.imageshack.com/a/img661/8882/VS9iyr.jpg) > [@](#): > > PAGE SEVENTEEN > > PANEL ONE > > 1 CAPTION: “Then they RAN. > > 2 CAPTION: “Back ways. Hiding. > > PANEL TWO > > 3 MOTHER: Till finally… they got here. > > 4 MOTHER: But I didn’t know what to DO for them. > > 5 MOTHER: I didn’t know what ANYBODY could DO! > > 6 CYNTHIA: Shh… shh…… > > 7 CYNTHIA: Easy. WE can do something. > > 8 CYNTHIA: I PROMISE… > > PANEL THREE > > 9 GOWER: If we get the CHANCE… > > PANEL FOUR > > 10 GOWER (from house): Damn. > > 11 GOWER: It’s SHARON and her BOYS in BLUE… > > PANEL FIVE > > 12 CYNTHIA: Mrs. Salter… please. You have to LISTEN to me. > > 13 CYNTHIA: In a few moments the POLICE will be KNOCKING on your DOOR, > > 14 CYNTHIA: But we can HELP Malcolm. We can get him to a place where he can be TAKEN CARE OF… > > 15 CYNTHIA: It you’ll just TRUST us. > > 16 MOTHER: Malcolm? But it isn’t… > > 17 CYNTHIA: PLEASE Mrs. Salter! Just TELL me where they ARE! > > PANEL SIX > > 18 MOTHER: Where… > > 19 MOTHER: …they… > > 20 MOTHER: …are… [![](https://forum.sanctuary.fr/uploads/default/original/4X/1/9/5/195d30e66c909521811c86aa0f19be2dba8133d2.jpeg) ](https://imagizer.imageshack.com/a/img537/8917/e70CzI.jpg) > [@](#): > > PAGE EIGHTEEN > > PANEL ONE > > 1 GOWER: Oh, don’t TELL me…! > > 2 CYNTHIA: A TRAP DOOR! > > PANEL TWO > > 3 GOWER: They’ve been under the FLOOR the whole… > > 4 ESTER: STAY AWAY! > > PANEL THREE > > 5 EYES: DON’T… > > PANEL FOUR > > 6 CYNTHIA (burst): NO! > > PANEL FIVE > > 7 CYNTHIA: It’s ALL RIGHT, Ester. > > 8 CYNTHIA: You and Malcolm are SAFE with us. > > 9 CYNTHIA: You. Are. SAFE. With. Us. > > PANEL SIX > > 19 CYNTHIA: But the POLICE are at the FRONT DOOR… > > 20 GOWER: Mrs. Salter! You try to DELAY them. > > 21 GOWER: We’ll sneak out the… > > PANEL SEVEN > > 22 CAPTION: “Damn!” [![](https://forum.sanctuary.fr/uploads/default/original/4X/5/b/1/5b190126f2903d798bb5e690c69c1030bfd13ed9.jpeg) ](https://imagizer.imageshack.com/a/img673/3686/0NO98K.jpg) > [@](#): > > PAGE NINETEEN > > PANEL ONE > > 1 ESTER: They’re at the BACK DOOR, too! > > 2 ESTER: NO!! > > PANEL TWO (silent) > > PANEL THREE > > 3 SHARON: What the HELL was THAT? > > 4 COP 1: Stay BACK, Lieutenant! > > 5 COP 1: We’ll HANDLE this! > > 6 COP 2: ‘Scuse us, Ma’am… > > PANEL FOUR (silent) > > PANEL FIVE > > 7 SHARON: Everybody… > > 8 SHARON: FREEZE!! [![](https://forum.sanctuary.fr/uploads/default/original/4X/3/3/b/33bb012e2a2bbbf1f012b41e4ab0f327665cb9b0.jpeg) ](https://imagizer.imageshack.com/a/img538/587/5IrcAt.jpg) > [@](#): > > PAGE TWENTY > > PANEL ONE > > 1 SHARON: What in the name of…?? > > 2 ESTER: St-stay away! Or… > > 3 CYNTHIA: No! DON’T! > > PANEL TWO > > 4 CYNTHIA: Malcolm… You. Must. Not. Hurt. People. > > 5 CYNTHIA: Do you UNDERSTAND? Hurting people is BAD! > > 6 ESTER: Bad… > > PANEL THREE > > 7 ESTER (small lettering, medium sized balloon): …bad… > > PANEL FOUR (silent) [![](https://forum.sanctuary.fr/uploads/default/original/4X/9/8/3/983f8aaac91e2af1dba654191665cca0f265139e.jpeg) ](https://imagizer.imageshack.com/a/img912/493/NYeMPJ.jpg) > [@](#): > > PAGE TWENTY-ONE > > PANEL ONE > > 1 CAPTION: Rowayton, Connecticut > > 2 BUTLER (from house): I’m SORRY, sir, but Miss Carter is not HOME to VISITORS. > > 3 GOWER (from house): Look, I KNOW she’s here… > > 4 GOWER (ditto): And we’ve been trying to REACH her for WEEKS… > > PANEL TWO > > 5 BUTLER: I am SORRY you were INCONVENIENCED, sir, but… > > 6 CYNTHIA: That’s all right, Collins. > > 7 CYNTHIA: I’ll SEE this gentleman. > > PANEL THREE > > 8 GOWER: “Gentleman”. A PROMOTION! > > 9 GOWER: Nice little SHACK you got here, Princess. Is the MONEY all YOURS, or… > > 10 CYNTHIA: I’m not in the MOOD for CHIT CHAT, Gower. > > 11 CYNTHIA: Come into the drawing room. > > PANEL FOUR > > 12 CYNTHIA: …and as I have told Mrs Smith a DOZEN times, I am NOT coming back. > > 13 CYNTHIA: My… POWERS compelled that little boy to DESTROY himself and his mother. > > 14 CYNTHIA: How can I ever come back after THAT? > > 15 GOWER: How about if I tell you YOU didn’t destroy ANYBODY? > > PANEL FIVE > > 16 CYNTHIA: What?? > > 17 CYNTHIA: What are you SAYING? I SAW them… [![](https://forum.sanctuary.fr/uploads/default/original/4X/1/b/a/1ba171451451cae365eeb6c798a504d89067f6c8.jpeg) ](https://imagizer.imageshack.com/a/img661/3538/tdVEY9.jpg) > [@](#): > > PAGE TWENTY-TWO > > PANEL ONE > > 1 GOWER: Oh, you saw them BLOW UP, sure. But you didn’t CAUSE it. > > 2 GOWER: You were directing your POWER at the kid – and HE wasn’t the one that made things EXPLODE. > > 3 GOWER: It took a while, but the BOSSES finally got the whole story out of Mrs. Salter. > > 4 GOWER: Seems when Ester was just a girl… THINGS started HAPPENING. > > PANEL TWO > > 5 CAPTION: “When she was FIVE, a SCHOOL BULLY suffered an ANEURISM on the playground. > > PANEL THREE > > 6 CAPTION: “Later, a TEACHER she didn’t like had a MASSIVE HEART ATTACK in class. > > PANEL FOUR > > 7 CAPTION: “And when Malcolm was just WEEKS old, his father… disappeared. > > PANEL FIVE > > 8 GOWER: Now we KNOW what HAPPENED to him. > > 9 GOWER: See, it was ESTER who had the power. Malcolm was just a FOCUS. Somehow he BOOSTED it, without knowing it himself. > > 10 CYNTHIA: That’s… incredible. > > PANEL SIX > > 11 CYNTHIA: But… > > 12 CYNTHIA: How did Ester escape DETECTION up till now? > > 13 GOWER: The early cases were UNDETECTABLE. > > 14 GOWER: And she and Malcolm’s father were on the BEACH at CONEY ISLAND when she DID AWAY with him. > > 15 GOWER: No WITNESSES, and the TIDE washed away the EVIDENCE. > > PANEL SEVEN > > 16 GOWER: I guess we were just LUCKY there were no OTHER cases. > > 17 GOWER: But, c’mon, princess! Whaddaya say? > > 18 GOWER: I think me an’ you make a pretty good TEAM. > > 19 GOWER: Come back to WORK! > > 20 CYNTHIA: On ONE condition. > > PANEL EIGHT > > 21 CYNTHIA: PLEASE stop calling me “princess”! > > 22 CAPTION: Next: 1985 Source: [byrnerobotics.com](http://www.byrnerobotics.com) ---
**Author:** ![Marko](https://forum.sanctuary.fr/user_avatar/forum.sanctuary.fr/marko/32/39150_2.png) [@Marko](https://forum.sanctuary.fr/u/Marko)\ **Post date:** [Février 17, 2015, 9:06 UTC](https://forum.sanctuary.fr/t/les-projets-avortes/47944/165 "2015-02-17T21:06:15Z")
Dommage, j’espère que sa motivation finira par revenir… ---
**Author:** ![Marko](https://forum.sanctuary.fr/user_avatar/forum.sanctuary.fr/marko/32/39150_2.png) [@Marko](https://forum.sanctuary.fr/u/Marko)\ **Post date:** [Février 17, 2015, 9:17 UTC](https://forum.sanctuary.fr/t/les-projets-avortes/47944/166 "2015-02-17T21:17:15Z")
Cette fois-ci un deux en un avec deux projets avortés censés sortir à peu près à la même période sur la même série, à savoir **Daredevil: The Devil’s Own** de **Miller** et **Simonson** ainsi que le run d’ **Englehart** sur tête à cornes, et par la même occasion j’évoquerai brièvement la période **Nocenti** qui en a résulté. ![](https://forum.sanctuary.fr/uploads/default/original/3X/e/3/e37b72bcd8f512d863e192a1e553bcbc3f149bad.jpg) En 1986, en plein âge d’or millerien (Year One, Love and War, The Dark Knight Returns, Elektra: Assassin) le scénariste et dessinateur star opère un retour fracassant sur sa série fétiche avec l’apothéose grandiose qu’est **Born Again**. Une fois cette saga terminée, Miller se dit qu’il aimerait bien écrire un arc de plus avec Walt Simonson au dessin, son vieux pote et compère du studio Upstart Associates. Ce diptyque ayant comme sujet la pédophilie, devait au départ être un simple fill-in s’étalant sur les numéros 235-236, or les éditeurs ont fait part de leur empressement en raison de l’arrivée imminente d’une nouvelle équipe créative (la couverture du second numéro a du coup été la seule occasion qu’a eu Simonson de dessiner DD). [img11.hostingpics.net/pics/841727ddwhathappenedtoEnglehartsrun.jpg](http://www.hostingpics.net/viewer.php?id=841727ddwhathappenedtoEnglehartsrun.jpg) Seul le script du premier épisode a été achevé, et le projet est du coup resté dans les cartons, sa concrétisation étant de plus en plus mise en péril vu le retour de Miller chez DC et l’arrivée du couple Simonson sur X-Factor (l’éditeur **Ralph Macchio** a essayé de faire avancer les choses à la fin de la décennie en le transformant en one-shot à part pour lui donner plus de visibilité, mais cela n’a pas abouti). Après que Fingeroth et Ditko se soient chargés de l’intérim, c’est l’éditrice **Ann Nocenti** , et scénariste de la mini-série Longshot, qui se charge finalement de l’écriture du 236, dessiné par **Barry Windsor-Smith** rien que ça (du vrai fill-in de luxe, publié en vf dans le recueil « Rêve américain »). Pour la suite, **Steve Englehart** est envisagé, mais la situation établie dans le numéro précédent à propos de Black Widow modifie ses plans, lui qui voulait faire en sorte que Matt et Natasha reviennent à San Francisco pour rejoindre les West Coast Avengers (sa série justement). En demandant à l’éditeur de changer cela, il subit une relative déconvenue (« non, elle est éditrice, c’est toi qui devra changer tes plans ! ») et il n’écrira finalement que le 237, sous le pseudonyme de « John Harkness », avant de s’en aller. ![](https://forum.sanctuary.fr/uploads/default/original/3X/5/9/592b563e16e428d691ab24c617fe4f141d7c113c.jpg) À partir de là, Ann Nocenti débutera un run remarquable (dans le top 3 de mes périodes favorites de la série avec Miller et Colan) qui atteindra son plein potentiel avec l’arrivée de **John Romita Jr** et **Al Williamson** , un dessinateur et encreur hors pair qui faisait également des merveilles avec Buscema pendant la période Madripoor du griffu. Miller et Simonson finiront tout de même par collaborer en 1992 chez Dark Horse sur la série **Robocop versus Terminator** (connue également pour son adaptation vidéoludique). Cela permet à Miller de réutiliser certains éléments développés à l’époque de sa courte et plutôt amère expérience hollywoodienne au début des années 90. Il reprend donc certaines idées non utilisées de Robocop 2 & 3, les deux suites mal-aimées du chef-d’oeuvre de Verhoeven. [![](https://forum.sanctuary.fr/uploads/default/original/3X/d/0/d011ca8d7200c3536ef2ad0a1da2a64d6df02a05.jpeg) ](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/4/4c/Robocop_VS_Terminator.jpg) Sources: [manwithoutfear.com/daredevil.shtml](http://www.manwithoutfear.com/daredevil.shtml) [marvel1980s.blogspot.fr](http://marvel1980s.blogspot.fr) ---
**Author:** ![Jim\_Laine](https://forum.sanctuary.fr/user_avatar/forum.sanctuary.fr/jim_laine/32/164592_2.png) [@Jim\_Laine](https://forum.sanctuary.fr/u/Jim_Laine)\ **Post date:** [Février 17, 2015, 10:57 UTC](https://forum.sanctuary.fr/t/les-projets-avortes/47944/167 "2015-02-17T22:57:11Z")
> [@Marko](#): > > [http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/paulsmithwonderwoman.jpg](http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/paulsmithwonderwoman.jpg) > > Durant les années 90, DC envisage une mini-série façon « Year One » consacrée à la fameuse trinité, intitulée au départ «  **Love and War**  » (comme l’excellent graphic novel du duo Miller/Sienkiewicz). > Le projet est confié à **Jeph Loeb** et au prodige **Paul Smith** , un artiste aussi rare que talentueux, connu pour privilégier la moto à la planche à dessin. > > Une des principales divergences éditoriales concernait le fait que DC voulait un relooking plus sexy pour Diana (90’s oblige) ce qui finira plus tard par se concrétiser. > Cependant Smith refuse, fidèle à sa réputation de dessinateur de femmes classes et élégantes (ce qui change agréablement pendant cette période des mannequins anorexiques de J. Scott Campbell, des cambrures improbables de Liefeld, et des personnages féminins de Top Cow peu vêtues en général). > > ![](https://forum.sanctuary.fr/uploads/default/original/3X/1/e/1ec5f28d7fc151106846d8fcd5fe17d14331ba88.jpg) > > Dans une logique d’hommage et de retour aux origines, à l’instar de Mazzucchelli avec Batman, celui-ci voulait un look qui se rapproche plutôt de la version jupe des débuts (à la manière de **Harry G. Peter** ). > Après une importante mésentente sur la direction choisie, le projet a finalement capoté et Smith a préféré se consacrer à **Leave It to Chance** , un de ses meilleurs travaux à mon avis (le summum restant bien sûr son run sur les X-Men). > > Source: [paulmartinsmith.com/blog/love-and-war](http://www.paulmartinsmith.com/blog/love-and-war) Purée, je n’en ai jamais entendu parler, et je trouve ça magnifique. Paul Smith, je suis complètement fan. J’adore ses **X-Men** , je tiens ses **Doctor Strange** comme certaines de mes lectures et relectures préférées chez Marvel, je suis fan de son **Golden Age** … Purée, c’est quand même un sacré caractère de cochon, ce mec. Parce que là, ce que je vois, c’est un truc magnifique. Avec de la liberté, le droit de s’encrer lui-même et tout, il aurait laissé un sacré jalon. Mazette. Jim ---
**Author:** ![Blackiruah](https://forum.sanctuary.fr/user_avatar/forum.sanctuary.fr/blackiruah/32/128549_2.png) [@Blackiruah](https://forum.sanctuary.fr/u/Blackiruah)\ **Post date:** [Février 18, 2015, 5:51 UTC](https://forum.sanctuary.fr/t/les-projets-avortes/47944/168 "2015-02-18T05:51:47Z")
> [@Marko](#): > > Cette fois-ci un deux en un avec deux projets avortés censés sortir à peu près à la même période sur la même série, à savoir **Daredevil: The Devil’s Own** de **Miller** et **Simonson** ainsi que le run d’ **Englehart** sur tête à cornes, et par la même occasion j’évoquerai brièvement la période **Nocenti** qui en a résulté. > > En 1986, en plein âge d’or millerien (Year One, Love and War, The Dark Knight Returns, Elektra: Assassin) le scénariste et dessinateur star opère un retour fracassant sur sa série fétiche avec l’apothéose grandiose qu’est **Born Again**. > Une fois cette saga terminée, Miller se dit qu’il aimerait bien écrire un arc de plus avec Walt Simonson au dessin, son vieux pote et compère du studio Upstart Associates. > > Ce diptyque ayant comme sujet la pédophilie, devait au départ être un simple fill-in s’étalant sur les numéros 235-236, or les éditeurs ont fait part de leur empressement en raison de l’arrivée imminente d’une nouvelle équipe créative (la couverture du second numéro a du coup été la seule occasion qu’a eu Simonson de dessiner DD). > > Seul le script du premier épisode a été achevé, et le projet est du coup resté dans les cartons, sa concrétisation étant de plus en plus mise en péril vu le retour de Miller chez DC et l’arrivée du couple Simonson sur X-Factor (l’éditeur **Ralph Macchio** a essayé de faire avancer les choses à la fin de la décennie en le transformant en one-shot à part pour lui donner plus de visibilité, mais cela n’a pas abouti). > > Après que Fingeroth et Ditko se soient chargés de l’intérim, c’est l’éditrice **Ann Nocenti** , et scénariste de la mini-série Longshot, qui se charge finalement de l’écriture du 236, dessiné par **Barry Windsor-Smith** rien que ça (du vrai fill-in de luxe, publié en vf dans le recueil « Rêve américain »). > > Pour la suite, **Steve Englehart** est envisagé, mais la situation établie dans le numéro précédent à propos de Black Widow modifie ses plans, lui qui voulait faire en sorte que Matt et Natasha reviennent à San Francisco pour rejoindre les West Coast Avengers (sa série justement). > En demandant à l’éditeur de changer cela, il subit une relative déconvenue (« non, elle est éditrice, c’est toi qui devra changer tes plans ! ») et il n’écrira finalement que le 237, sous le pseudonyme de « John Harkness », avant de s’en aller. > > ![](https://forum.sanctuary.fr/uploads/default/original/3X/5/9/592b563e16e428d691ab24c617fe4f141d7c113c.jpg) > > À partir de là, Ann Nocenti débutera un run remarquable (dans le top 3 de mes périodes favorites de la série avec Miller et Colan) qui atteindra son plein potentiel avec l’arrivée de **John Romita Jr** et **Al Williamson** , un dessinateur et encreur hors pair qui faisait également des merveilles avec Buscema pendant la période Madripoor du griffu. > > Miller et Simonson finiront tout de même par collaborer en 1992 chez Dark Horse sur la série **Robocop versus Terminator** (connue également pour son adaptation vidéoludique). > Cela permet à Miller de réutiliser certains éléments développés à l’époque de sa courte et plutôt amère expérience hollywoodienne au début des années 90. > Il reprend donc certaines idées non utilisées de Robocop 2 & 3, les deux suites mal-aimées du chef-d’oeuvre de Verhoeven. Chouette anecdote ! ---
**Author:** ![Marko](https://forum.sanctuary.fr/user_avatar/forum.sanctuary.fr/marko/32/39150_2.png) [@Marko](https://forum.sanctuary.fr/u/Marko)\ **Post date:** [Février 19, 2015, 2:44 UTC](https://forum.sanctuary.fr/t/les-projets-avortes/47944/169 "2015-02-19T14:44:13Z")
[http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/ringoaqua.jpg](http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/ringoaqua.jpg) Continuant leur collaboration fructueuse, **Mark Waid** et **Mike Wieringo** , connus pour leurs runs sur Flash et les FF, ambitionnent vers 2003 de reprendre la série **Aquaman** (avant le début du relaunch de **Rick Veitch** ). Le scénariste a eu la possibilité de proposer le pitch que voici : > [@](#): > > AQUAMAN > Mark Waid/Mike Wieringo > Preliminary Pitch for a One-Shot/August 3, 2003 > > I am so sick of people making fun of Aquaman that I’m beginning to take it personally. For the last ten years or so, the way we’ve been scrambling to combat Aquaman’s « Dork of the Sea » image-and I’ve been guilty of trying this, too-is by making Aquaman increasingly darker, grittier, and tougher, the brooding, angry king beset with trouble. Each incarnation of the character seems grimmer than the last, to the point where all that’s left for us to do is give him two hooks. And a peg-leg. > > Yes, the seas can be turbulent and stormy, but y’know what? Far more often, the ocean is a universal symbol for peace and contentment. It’s a calming influence. If it weren’t, Bermuda would be deserted and Hawaii would be a an industrial trade port. It is most people’s « happy place. » Yes, the ocean is the set piece for « A Perfect Storm, » but it’s also the world of « Finding Nemo » and « The Little Mermaid. » I have never yet met anyone of any age who didn’t come away from Sea World envying the guides who swim with the whales and porpoises. I propose we turn this « grim Aquaman » paradigm around for a one-shot and see what happens. > > Our POV character in this story is a female marine biologist-and since Aquaman’s turf covers the world, there’s no need to make her American. (In fact, Russian is preferable-I’ve been doing a lot of reading about the culture of Russian courtship, and that could really play in nicely.) At any rate, our biologist-let’s call her Yelena for now-may have heard the name « Aquaman » here and there, but to her, he’s about as real and signifiant as, say, German football stars are to you and me. > > Yelena’s work is done with grungy old equipment and spit-and-bailing-wire technology, the best she has to work with. Her whole world has a gritty feel to it- -so when this bright, blond, shining knight of a man pops out of the water and into her life, she’s addled simply by the contrast. Their paths cross, and she’s drawn into an Aquaman adventure that takes us out on (and under) the water. > > Yelena’s not reluctant. To Yelena, this « Aquaman » is, yes, mysterious like the sea-but in a warm, enticing way. To Yelena, he is otherworldly, like a fairy tale character come to life. He rarely speaks (though when he does, he’s staggeringly charming), he lives in the water, and he smiles. Constantly. In fact, at first, Yelana has a nearly impossible time taking him seriously. He’s like a walking cartoon. > > And yet…the more she gets to know him, the further she’s drawn out of her world and into his, she’ll come to realize that there’s something going on behind those wide eyes of his. Looking in them, she sees peace and confidence; looking through them, she’s gradually introduced to an underwater world of absolute wonder, a place that is far more colorful and in tune with nature than is her own gritty lifestyle. Once she surrenders to the implausibility of it all, she’s rewarder a thousandfold, and so are we. Aquaman’s joy becomes her joy becomes our joy. > > There will be no mocking. No jokes about how « dumb » talking to fish is. Anyone with a keyboard can make cynical jokes. That’s easy. What’s harder is reminding you why, when you were a kid, you thought the idea of living underwater or riding on the backs of whales WAS cool. We can do that. We can remind you, and Yelena’s awed voice will be there to back us up. Cependant les éditeurs refusèrent à plusieurs reprises, visiblement pas fan de la direction choisie et du style cartoony de Wieringo. Le projet est définitivement tombé à l’eau (c’est le cas de le dire) avec la mort du co-créateur de **Tellos** en 2007, qui avait entre-temps travaillé sur ses derniers travaux, parmi lesquels la série **Friendly Neighborhood Spider-Man** , lancée au moment du crossover **The Other** auquel il regretta fortement d’avoir participé (j’ai tout de même le souvenir de quelques bons épisodes de PaD, notamment un one-shot centré sur une blogueuse paranoïaque). [![](https://forum.sanctuary.fr/uploads/default/original/3X/1/0/10e415d6e71c0bd16019d9f609a599d7614277ab.jpg) ](https://images-wixmp-ed30a86b8c4ca887773594c2.wixmp.com/f/8406660a-0d7c-42d3-a727-586c2a32bfa7/dw52hh-90207bc2-9884-44c6-b82c-9311ce1996c7.jpg?token=eyJ0eXAiOiJKV1QiLCJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiJ9.eyJpc3MiOiJ1cm46YXBwOjdlMGQxODg5ODIyNjQzNzNhNWYwZDQxNWVhMGQyNmUwIiwic3ViIjoidXJuOmFwcDo3ZTBkMTg4OTgyMjY0MzczYTVmMGQ0MTVlYTBkMjZlMCIsImF1ZCI6WyJ1cm46c2VydmljZTpmaWxlLmRvd25sb2FkIl0sIm9iaiI6W1t7InBhdGgiOiIvZi84NDA2NjYwYS0wZDdjLTQyZDMtYTcyNy01ODZjMmEzMmJmYTcvZHc1MmhoLTkwMjA3YmMyLTk4ODQtNDRjNi1iODJjLTkzMTFjZTE5OTZjNy5qcGcifV1dfQ.wnjiNpi4GyMPvZKqoV32e9Til2OWfacWdkRA7raZVyk) Source: [aquamanshrine.net](http://www.aquamanshrine.net) ---
**Author:** ![soyouz](https://forum.sanctuary.fr/user_avatar/forum.sanctuary.fr/soyouz/32/38978_2.png) [@soyouz](https://forum.sanctuary.fr/u/soyouz)\ **Post date:** [Février 19, 2015, 3:23 UTC](https://forum.sanctuary.fr/t/les-projets-avortes/47944/170 "2015-02-19T15:23:22Z")
> [@Marko](#): > > (j’ai tout de même le souvenir de quelques bons épisodes de PaD, notamment un one-shot centré sur une blogueuse paranoïaque). Ses dessins d’échauffement du matin sont encore plus mémorables ! ---
**Author:** ![KabFC](https://forum.sanctuary.fr/user_avatar/forum.sanctuary.fr/kabfc/32/38796_2.png) [@KabFC](https://forum.sanctuary.fr/u/KabFC)\ **Post date:** [Février 21, 2015, 10:10 UTC](https://forum.sanctuary.fr/t/les-projets-avortes/47944/171 "2015-02-21T10:10:01Z")
Wierigno c’était surtout plein que lui et PAD devait faire avec les sempiternel corssover sans pouvoir faire avancer l’intrigue et je parle des multiples covers variant qu’il avait du faire. ---
**Author:** ![Marko](https://forum.sanctuary.fr/user_avatar/forum.sanctuary.fr/marko/32/39150_2.png) [@Marko](https://forum.sanctuary.fr/u/Marko)\ **Post date:** [Mars 2, 2015, 4:00 UTC](https://forum.sanctuary.fr/t/les-projets-avortes/47944/172 "2015-03-02T16:00:07Z")
![](https://forum.sanctuary.fr/uploads/default/original/3X/c/6/c6d4f0fa79f380135323415d7dacfea1361a1e0c.jpg) Vers le milieu des années 80, **Claremont** et **Leonardi** commencent à travailler sur une mini-série **Phoenix** , centrée sur le personnage de **Rachel Summers** , en vue d’explorer son passé tortueux (donc le futur potentiel de **Days of Future Past** ) et de développer sa relation avec le **Franklin Richards** adulte du futur. L’histoire devait également inclure **Power Pack** et **Spirale** et faire le lien entre son départ des X-Men et son arrivée chez Excalibur (finalement dans ce laps de temps elle fera juste un séjour prolongé dans le **Mojoworld** ). La sortie imminente est alors annoncée dans Marvel Age 43 : [quote]Coming Soon: PHOENIX Limited Series She’s from a future that may or may not be ours. She’s living in a past that isn’t quite the way she remembers it. She’s Rachel Summers, daughter of Scott Summers and Jean Grey, Cyclops and Marvel Girl of X-FACTOR! But her mother was Phoenix, and in the Marvel Universe Scott and Jean aren’t married. In fact, Scott has a son by his wife Madelyne! These are definitely not the average problems that face most young women. But then, Rachel isn’t exactly average. This is the background for THE PHOENIX Limited Series, written by Chris Claremont and drawn by Rick Leonardi and Dan Green. Rachel having retreated to current time to escape from a grim anti-mutant future, has joined the X-Men and is using her telepathic powers as the new Phoenix. But since she adopted her mother’s name in the battle against the Beyonder, nothing has gone right. The plot of the Limited Series deals with the dread villainess Spiral (remember her from LONGSHOT and, more recently, the Freedom Force?) and lots of psychological ramifications and complications. It examines how Rachel is coping with being in a past that resembles - but isn’t quite - the one that proceeded her world. She will meet Power Pack in the first issue and see little Franklin Richards. In her time, Rachel is in love with a grown Franklin! Here he is a child, and she is much older than him, and this situation will cause her to do some serious soul searching. There will also be lots of cameos and guest appearances, lots of flash-forwards, and lots of fantastic visuals by Leonardi and Green. We’ll have more information on the Limited Series as its publication approaches, so stay tuned.[/quote] la série est néanmoins repoussée, prévue ensuite pour 1987. Cependant l’éditeur trouve que cette histoire temporelle commence à devenir beaucoup trop alambiquée, et le projet est définitivement abandonné. Claremont réutilisera finalement le personnage lors de son run sur **Excalibur** tandis que l’histoire de Franklin sera reléguée au crossover **Days of Future Present**. En 1991, Le duo trouvera tout de même le moyen de s’occuper d’une autre histoire à propos de Phénix et Kitty Pryde. En raison du départ du scénariste phare de la franchise, cette arc ne sortira qu’à partir de son retour à la fin des années 90 (la série **X-Men: True Friends** ). ![](https://forum.sanctuary.fr/uploads/default/original/3X/a/7/a718acd31cedbe8781447c907c87c4b4a4520b7d.jpg) Et voici quelques pages de Rick Leonardi (encré par Dan Green) : ![](https://forum.sanctuary.fr/uploads/default/original/3X/1/3/130bab6199bf5bcdde1b7ed9ac1b3dd9ce1ec424.jpg) ![](https://forum.sanctuary.fr/uploads/default/original/3X/4/d/4de732fa129a09361047850291d2ecdc0a0b5f30.jpg) [http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/09/phoenix4.jpg](http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/09/phoenix4.jpg) [http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/09/phoenix5.jpg](http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/09/phoenix5.jpg) [http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/09/phoenix1.jpg](http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/09/phoenix1.jpg) [http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/09/phoenix2.jpg](http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/09/phoenix2.jpg) [http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/09/phoenix3.jpg](http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/09/phoenix3.jpg) Source: [marvel1980s.blogspot.fr](http://marvel1980s.blogspot.fr) ---
**Author:** ![Regulator](https://forum.sanctuary.fr/user_avatar/forum.sanctuary.fr/regulator/32/38739_2.png) [@Regulator](https://forum.sanctuary.fr/u/Regulator)\ **Post date:** [Mars 2, 2015, 4:20 UTC](https://forum.sanctuary.fr/t/les-projets-avortes/47944/173 "2015-03-02T16:20:41Z")
> [@](#): > > [http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/09/phoenix1.jpg](http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/09/phoenix1.jpg) Voilà donc où était passé Héléna Wayne. ---
**Author:** ![KabFC](https://forum.sanctuary.fr/user_avatar/forum.sanctuary.fr/kabfc/32/38796_2.png) [@KabFC](https://forum.sanctuary.fr/u/KabFC)\ **Post date:** [Mars 2, 2015, 7:35 UTC](https://forum.sanctuary.fr/t/les-projets-avortes/47944/174 "2015-03-02T19:35:27Z")
Leonard quand même. J’suis toujours aussi fan, ça envoie du gros. ---
**Author:** ![soyouz](https://forum.sanctuary.fr/user_avatar/forum.sanctuary.fr/soyouz/32/38978_2.png) [@soyouz](https://forum.sanctuary.fr/u/soyouz)\ **Post date:** [Mars 2, 2015, 8:27 UTC](https://forum.sanctuary.fr/t/les-projets-avortes/47944/175 "2015-03-02T20:27:55Z")
Qui est gros ? ---
**Author:** ![n.n.nemo](https://forum.sanctuary.fr/user_avatar/forum.sanctuary.fr/n.n.nemo/32/38763_2.png) [@n.n.nemo](https://forum.sanctuary.fr/u/n.n.nemo)\ **Post date:** [Mars 3, 2015, 8:33 UTC](https://forum.sanctuary.fr/t/les-projets-avortes/47944/176 "2015-03-03T08:33:06Z")
le même gars qui est lourd ou en bois. Groot ? ---
**Author:** ![Marko](https://forum.sanctuary.fr/user_avatar/forum.sanctuary.fr/marko/32/39150_2.png) [@Marko](https://forum.sanctuary.fr/u/Marko)\ **Post date:** [Mars 3, 2015, 8:51 UTC](https://forum.sanctuary.fr/t/les-projets-avortes/47944/177 "2015-03-03T08:51:29Z")
> [@n.nemo](#): > > Groot ? Ou le Blob. ![](https://forum.sanctuary.fr/uploads/default/original/3X/a/a/aa374110b97f259b15bc71d6459c3c70c5ae18e0.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![KabFC](https://forum.sanctuary.fr/user_avatar/forum.sanctuary.fr/kabfc/32/38796_2.png) [@KabFC](https://forum.sanctuary.fr/u/KabFC)\ **Post date:** [Mars 3, 2015, 10:32 UTC](https://forum.sanctuary.fr/t/les-projets-avortes/47944/178 "2015-03-03T10:32:55Z")
Mon premier X-Men, mon premier comics (larmouille, de joie). [Page précédente](https://forum.sanctuary.fr/t/les-projets-avortes/47944.md?page=7) [Page suivante](https://forum.sanctuary.fr/t/les-projets-avortes/47944.md?page=9)