Mike Zeck :


Mike Zeck :


Je veux un récit où il dessine dans ce style avec cette coloration !
Vu que de base il n’y a que les douze épisodes de la maxi-série dans prologue/épilogue/tie-in/one-shot pour l’anniversaire des 27 ans et demi et tanti quanti, cela aurait été étonnant qu’il ne le soit pas.
Mais je te comprends : c’est frustrant de voir moins quand il y avait un peu plus dans une édition précédente, surtout si elle est épuisée !
By FRED VAN LENTE
SECRET WARS #3: “Tempest Without, Crisis Within!” (Released March 6, 1984)
Confession time: When I was 12, I absolutely adored this issue. I loathed the X-Men and loved Spider-Man. Peter Parker was a wiseass nerd, just like me, and Uncanny X-Men seemed to me to be an impenetrable Oppression Porn soap opera. I guess I’ve always had a knee-jerk revulsion to “Born Special” stories, whether it’s mutants, Harry Potter, or Kwisatz Haderaches.
So when the X-ers catch Spidey eavesdropping on them deciding to decamp to fellow mutant Magneto’s base (after the Master of Magnetism tried to something-something the heroes’ base last issue) and he kicks the crap out of them in a page and a half while escaping, 12-year-old me was in ecstasy. A character I liked was beating up some characters I didn’t like: Fan Catnip!
When you actually have to write characters, though, you must turn off your Fan Brain and learn how to empathize with all of them. Years later, I’d write a surprising number of X-Men stories at Marvel and became a lot more sympathetic to them. I’ve since done a 180 on what was once my favorite Secret Wars bit.
For one thing, Spider-Man’s reaction to the X-Men deciding to move out is to drop out of a ceiling vent and bitch-slap Charles Xavier, a bald man in a tie, which seems wildly out of character. He webs Colossus, Rogue and Nightcrawler in that many panels. He dodges a lightning bolt from Storm, who offers a kind of lame justification for all of this in that if she was outside in the open air she could really do some damage.
The crowning X-Indignity is that Spidey pimp-swats Wolverine away effortlessly (literally, the sound effect is “SWAT!”), without even chipping a spider-nail on Logan’s adamantium jaw.
I once agreed to a debate with former DC editor Dan Raspler over who would in a fight, Spider-Man or Batman. As I’d written both Amazing and Web of Spider-Man (and Marvel Adventures Spider-Man, for the kiddos), I was charged with the pro-Peter perspective, which meant, going in, I knew mine was the losing side.
Not because I think that Spider-Man would lose in a fight to Batman—quite the opposite, in fact, all things being equal.
But things are never equal. I knew going in that the only thing Batman really has over Spider-Man is that everybody loves Batman, which isn’t just the only thing, it’s everything. People want their favorites to win. Also, Batman has had a major superpower for a while now, which is, “I Thought of That,” like that annoying kid on the playground who proclaims he’s rubber and you’re glue.
No matter how much I argued Spider-Man is stronger and faster than Batman, has a danger sense, and is, if not as smart as Bruce Wayne, is in the general vicinity of his intelligence and gadgeteering level, Dan just said, Batman would have like anti-Spider-Sense jammers set up all over Gotham and/or New York, he’d have laid nerve gas bombs down before the fight started, Batman is cool and Spider-Man is a dork, et cetera. (Nothing against Dan—he was just advocating for his client.)
In audience voting Dan trounced me handily. But then I realized this was a libertarian society where we were debating. Of course they sided with the billionaire! It’s an outcome as ridiculously lopsided as Spider-Man beating up all the X-Men in a page and a half.
The correct answer to any “Who would win in a fight” question, Dr. Manhattan vs. Squirrel Girl on down, is “Whoever the writer picks.” The Spider-Man versus X-Men fight in Secret Wars really reads to me now like scribe Jim Shooter is doing a weird repressed-jealousy thing beating up on Marvel’s most popular series (which, believe me, is the kind of petty nonsense that still happens all the time in mainstream comics).
More stuff happens in this issue, like Magneto putting the moves on Wasp, Enchantress putting the moves on Thor, and the villains attacking the heroes’ base, but I have used so much wordage harping on this one scene I will have to pick all that up with the continuation of this tale next issue…
De mémoire, c’est dans la VF que j’ai appris l’expression « guerres intestines ».
Jim
Moi, c’est après un trop bon repas.
Il va y avoir une sortie du coffret en tirage limité à 60€ avec des inédits en vf qui sortira en juin : Les Guerres Secrètes. Il me semble que ce sera en plusieurs fascicules et sans les publicités d’époque à cause des droits…
Avec le papier d’origine ? ![]()
Panini propose un coffret ULTRA COLLECTOR (limité à 700 pièces) à 60€ des Guerres secrètes en coffret comportant 12 fac-similés de la maxi-série !
Il n’y aura pas les pubs d’époques sur les fac-similés (pour des raisons de droits). Pour palier à ce manque il y aura un 13ème fascicule avec des bonus et de l’inédit en France
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Raahhhh putain c’est le genre de truc sur lequel je pourrais craquer
C’est pas un poisson d’avril ?
(putain)
J’ai déjà craqué. Précommandé !
Je sais pas… y a quoi en inédit ?
Non ca se trouve sur les sites depuis quelques semaines